qplearn
09-13 03:26 PM
I think you missed my point...we need more members because you can't get any one's time if you just want them to do something for you. You have to be prepared to do something for them. For us, when we become citizens, we need to vote. Now do you see why political parties look for numbers?
Also, as far as our outreach in the news media is concerned, you should look at this page:
http://www.immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=19&Itemid=27
We may not have made the news on CNN or on PBS, but we have gotten the word out across a wide spectrum of the news media...
RR
Yes, I obviously cannot diasgree with that logic; it is all about votes.
But, I looked at the articles that you point to above: The one in WASH POST is about illegal immigration. There is no article in NY TIMES. We need the big newspapers and PBS to discuss our issue repeatedly. Also, many of the newspapers mentioned there cater to Indian population, e.g., Times of India. Plus shusterman.com will always report about us. He is not a part of the wide spectrum of media.
This is a problem with what we are doing. The media does not know about our plight; all they know is that many of us came here on H1B.
Also, all these articles should be on a sticky thread for all to see where we have been heard.
Also, as far as our outreach in the news media is concerned, you should look at this page:
http://www.immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=19&Itemid=27
We may not have made the news on CNN or on PBS, but we have gotten the word out across a wide spectrum of the news media...
RR
Yes, I obviously cannot diasgree with that logic; it is all about votes.
But, I looked at the articles that you point to above: The one in WASH POST is about illegal immigration. There is no article in NY TIMES. We need the big newspapers and PBS to discuss our issue repeatedly. Also, many of the newspapers mentioned there cater to Indian population, e.g., Times of India. Plus shusterman.com will always report about us. He is not a part of the wide spectrum of media.
This is a problem with what we are doing. The media does not know about our plight; all they know is that many of us came here on H1B.
Also, all these articles should be on a sticky thread for all to see where we have been heard.
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485Mbe4001
05-23 04:17 PM
As someone who has talked to the congressmen and their staff, i can say that they do keep track of the number of people calling to support or speak against a bill. They can judge the public support or backlash easily. Talk radios inflamed anti immigrant groups who made thousands of calls. We on the other hand analyze the bills to death (in process provide talking points to the opposition), ask for minute by minute updates and start daydreaming on how we will celebrate when the bills pass. We make one call and expect immediate results.
You might be a 'voteless alien' but realize that you are supporting an economy of 'voters'. In your spare time calculate the amount of money you spend and the ancillary jobs you directly or indirectly support, you will be surprised.
Finally, the IV folks have some experience and they say things based on some background information that you might not be privy to. Also realize that many hardworking members of IV have their green cards and they are still working for the likes of you and I. I can understand that your post could be an immediate negative reaction of the amendments failure but the fact that you care shows that there is point to your pointless wait.
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
You might be a 'voteless alien' but realize that you are supporting an economy of 'voters'. In your spare time calculate the amount of money you spend and the ancillary jobs you directly or indirectly support, you will be surprised.
Finally, the IV folks have some experience and they say things based on some background information that you might not be privy to. Also realize that many hardworking members of IV have their green cards and they are still working for the likes of you and I. I can understand that your post could be an immediate negative reaction of the amendments failure but the fact that you care shows that there is point to your pointless wait.
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
saimrathi
07-17 09:55 PM
Since Visa numbers trickle down, the more visa numbers there are available, the more will trickle down to countries with high demand... recapturing visa numbers might be easier than taking a poke at per country limit.. IMHO...
Recapturing lost numbers is not a permanent solution. Per country limit 7% is ridiculous. We need to make sure we are not discriminated against by the per country limit. Its not my fault that someone from Europe doesnt want to come here and not so many from Africa or south america qualify for the EB visas.
Recapturing lost numbers is not a permanent solution. Per country limit 7% is ridiculous. We need to make sure we are not discriminated against by the per country limit. Its not my fault that someone from Europe doesnt want to come here and not so many from Africa or south america qualify for the EB visas.
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Bloomington
12-13 12:09 PM
will you be a member? I would propose we charge a mere $25 fee for registering and then monthly contribution of say $25. Then we run special funding drives for lobbying when ever required. Will you be a paid member to come out of GC mess?
Please participate in the poll.
No...Because this is FOREM a please where people express their opinion ….if you commercialize .will loss purpose. Not a good idea.
Please participate in the poll.
No...Because this is FOREM a please where people express their opinion ….if you commercialize .will loss purpose. Not a good idea.
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chanduv23
01-29 10:23 AM
I agree with you. Only court can decide whether this memo has incorrect interpretation of INA laws or not. Until then, this memo is valid.
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Not a legal advice.
desi - from your posts - you always seem to look at things from all sides and your perspectives and views tend to look like "perfect law in perfect world"
Not sure if you are a lawyer or you have a lot of insight into things, but in real world, even lawmaking is unique and vague. Courts and judges go by how best the case is presented and how and in what angle it can be viewed from and how similar things were dealt with in past.
Litigation experts also look at the psychological aspect of stuff. what I want to say is, the entire process of litigation is a huge animal and we can never judge or assess that.
One of my cousin sister is a criminal lawyer in India and when we get to hear the inside scoop of how stuff is handled in courts you will be surprised that your common knowledge about the law is just not good enough.
There are a lot of factors that go into the so caled legal world and mere book knowledge may not be sufficient.
Your views are good, but they definitely are "bookish" in nature.
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Not a legal advice.
desi - from your posts - you always seem to look at things from all sides and your perspectives and views tend to look like "perfect law in perfect world"
Not sure if you are a lawyer or you have a lot of insight into things, but in real world, even lawmaking is unique and vague. Courts and judges go by how best the case is presented and how and in what angle it can be viewed from and how similar things were dealt with in past.
Litigation experts also look at the psychological aspect of stuff. what I want to say is, the entire process of litigation is a huge animal and we can never judge or assess that.
One of my cousin sister is a criminal lawyer in India and when we get to hear the inside scoop of how stuff is handled in courts you will be surprised that your common knowledge about the law is just not good enough.
There are a lot of factors that go into the so caled legal world and mere book knowledge may not be sufficient.
Your views are good, but they definitely are "bookish" in nature.
neverbefore
10-30 03:03 AM
Congratulations to all you guys who have got their 485s approved. It is great to hear the stories of old times from people like alterego.
Wishing everyone the best. May happiness visit all of us here and not just through and because of green card
Wishing everyone the best. May happiness visit all of us here and not just through and because of green card
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amulchandra
03-31 10:49 PM
After my AP approval notice email, all our(four) 485s got an LUD on Mar 31st 2009.
I applied AP only for myself and rest of the family did not.Service center is NSC. 485 recpt date is sept 11 2007.PD 2006 eb3/I. But we were issued one year EAD though eligible for 2 years since our PD is not current. Could it be because they sent 2nd FP notices? Are they sending FP notices for the second time these days? I heard some where that USCIS now can keep the FP notices valid for longer time than 15 months. We did ours in 2007 october. I know that USCIS has strange ways of dealing with things. But still....any insight is appreciated.
thank you
Amul.
I applied AP only for myself and rest of the family did not.Service center is NSC. 485 recpt date is sept 11 2007.PD 2006 eb3/I. But we were issued one year EAD though eligible for 2 years since our PD is not current. Could it be because they sent 2nd FP notices? Are they sending FP notices for the second time these days? I heard some where that USCIS now can keep the FP notices valid for longer time than 15 months. We did ours in 2007 october. I know that USCIS has strange ways of dealing with things. But still....any insight is appreciated.
thank you
Amul.
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JazzByTheBay
07-17 10:08 PM
Let's pick up where we left off before this July 2 visa bulletin debacle (and the resulting struggle). Though the whole fiasco did get us our first taste of success, imho, and as such isn't insignificant by any measure.
Jazz
we seized on an opportunity and won a battle.
the war is still to be one.
there is no way this over. we will fight till retrogression ends.
Jazz
we seized on an opportunity and won a battle.
the war is still to be one.
there is no way this over. we will fight till retrogression ends.
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04-02 05:22 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
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StuckInTheMuck
04-28 12:28 PM
Just a note( i am not trying to deter anybody or argue against your compilation) that by law all foreigners are required to carry their passport, how many of us follow that, on that note, I will not carry original with me at all. just my 0.02 cents.
GCCovet
True, we do not carry passports every time we step out of our house (for example, when going to pick up Bud Lite from my neighboring grocery store). But I would think that passports, unlike the PR card, are not designed to be tucked into your wallet for carrying around. Also, for PR cards the always-carry-it-on-your-person law is explicitly stated (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD), whereas, stray cases notwithstanding (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16736), I am not aware of a similar law for passports (except maybe when you do not have your usual ID, such as DL).
GCCovet
True, we do not carry passports every time we step out of our house (for example, when going to pick up Bud Lite from my neighboring grocery store). But I would think that passports, unlike the PR card, are not designed to be tucked into your wallet for carrying around. Also, for PR cards the always-carry-it-on-your-person law is explicitly stated (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD), whereas, stray cases notwithstanding (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16736), I am not aware of a similar law for passports (except maybe when you do not have your usual ID, such as DL).
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11-27 07:03 PM
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-91255-0-days0-orderasc-.html
I think I did last week - yeah they are the lowest of the low cheerleading xenophobes and nativisthatemongers like lou
I think I did last week - yeah they are the lowest of the low cheerleading xenophobes and nativisthatemongers like lou
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edaltsis
09-24 12:57 PM
Take it easy! He vented out his anger for no reason, just forgive him or ignore his ignorance. IV welcomes donations but its for a reason, to maintain such a good portal. May be he dint like this.
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01-10 11:55 AM
I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . .
A sad truth that we all want to do hero worship. We all want someone to do something for us while we can watch and comment on it. But this is a good thing because even though we are not doing anything at least we are saying something. I wonder why Indians are doing so much complaining.
Where are China and ROW people? Are they not in pain? I have not seen them on the forums.
A sad truth that we all want to do hero worship. We all want someone to do something for us while we can watch and comment on it. But this is a good thing because even though we are not doing anything at least we are saying something. I wonder why Indians are doing so much complaining.
Where are China and ROW people? Are they not in pain? I have not seen them on the forums.
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chanduv23
07-02 07:22 AM
If IV can outline how it is going to help, that would really make many people come out of the shelves. However, though we talk so much, people are still scared to identify themselves against the employer. However, they may be ready to outline everything against the specific employer as an anonymous person. we got to deal with a situation where people are ready but anonymously. How can we handle this.
A problem very similar to marriage breakups. People do not want to deal with the aftermaths of a breakup but willing to put up with crap from spouse.
GC being tied to employer has created all this situation.
If people are coming forward to complain - IV can help interace with auhorities, media etc..... COntact IV with specific issues.
A problem very similar to marriage breakups. People do not want to deal with the aftermaths of a breakup but willing to put up with crap from spouse.
GC being tied to employer has created all this situation.
If people are coming forward to complain - IV can help interace with auhorities, media etc..... COntact IV with specific issues.
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sri1309
01-08 05:03 PM
Immigration-law.com says today"
Sen. Sherrod Brown [OH] Joined Yesterday the List of Co-Sponsors for S.9 Immigration Bill, Changing Co-Sponsors to 13 Senators".
Lets start writing to all the supporters once again. HIghlight housing crisis, also can request premium processing for 485. Make sure we show the immediate and long term benefits. As somene noted, tell that to keep people when they are young enough and not to drive them aaway with their citizen children only to return when they are all 50-55+ of age, with more chances to depend on SSN, than to contribute
Sen. Sherrod Brown [OH] Joined Yesterday the List of Co-Sponsors for S.9 Immigration Bill, Changing Co-Sponsors to 13 Senators".
Lets start writing to all the supporters once again. HIghlight housing crisis, also can request premium processing for 485. Make sure we show the immediate and long term benefits. As somene noted, tell that to keep people when they are young enough and not to drive them aaway with their citizen children only to return when they are all 50-55+ of age, with more chances to depend on SSN, than to contribute
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06-21 11:09 PM
So whats going on here..... Ben?
pappu
11-16 11:35 AM
We all can certainly do one thing, we can write emails, letters to editors and media talking about our personal situations, highlighting EB visa backlog and how that is hurting legal-tax paying aliens like us. We can raise awareness in the media and we can bring new members.
When something is asked of us, we should do that. Pappu asked everyone to write to the editors thanking them for the story about immigrant entreprenuers. Just yesterday, we had some people come forward and write to all these editors.
Myself and some other members even posted names and emails of all the editors that we should thank in the "news article thread". If all of us can go there and write emails and flood them with thank-you notes, we will get noticed. Remember the print media business is based on how many readers they have, we have to make them feel that this issue is very important and is getting them more readers and membership.
Yes amitjoey. thanks a lot for that help. I wish more people participated in it. infact if more members can continue to do it today it will be very helpful. yesterday there were at least 3 mails from reporters expressing interest in us. This was because a few people wrote to them about IV and requested them to do a followup article abut us. I had found about 72 articles yesterday morning and we had more than 50 potential reporters to contact.It is not easy to get press coverage and this is one opportunity where we can captitalize on the venture captitalist story (no pun intentended).
When something is asked of us, we should do that. Pappu asked everyone to write to the editors thanking them for the story about immigrant entreprenuers. Just yesterday, we had some people come forward and write to all these editors.
Myself and some other members even posted names and emails of all the editors that we should thank in the "news article thread". If all of us can go there and write emails and flood them with thank-you notes, we will get noticed. Remember the print media business is based on how many readers they have, we have to make them feel that this issue is very important and is getting them more readers and membership.
Yes amitjoey. thanks a lot for that help. I wish more people participated in it. infact if more members can continue to do it today it will be very helpful. yesterday there were at least 3 mails from reporters expressing interest in us. This was because a few people wrote to them about IV and requested them to do a followup article abut us. I had found about 72 articles yesterday morning and we had more than 50 potential reporters to contact.It is not easy to get press coverage and this is one opportunity where we can captitalize on the venture captitalist story (no pun intentended).
micofrost
06-13 04:17 PM
EB3 I is still very unfortunate... I guess this is how the melting pot works... correct me if I am wrong.
Out of 140K Visas 7%= 9800 is assigned to India (All Categories)
Out of 9800 - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 :(
From over all left over of 140K - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 (all other countries) - Left over (EB3 China) - Left over to (EB3 India) :(
EB3 India is lowest on the FOOD Chain!!!
Out of 9800, it is divided among three equally.Then the left over flows in seral fashion.
Out of 140K Visas 7%= 9800 is assigned to India (All Categories)
Out of 9800 - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 :(
From over all left over of 140K - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 (all other countries) - Left over (EB3 China) - Left over to (EB3 India) :(
EB3 India is lowest on the FOOD Chain!!!
Out of 9800, it is divided among three equally.Then the left over flows in seral fashion.
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